2×13 The End of the Road

In this episode Nick, Alex, and Lance discuss the season finale, episode thirteen of season 2 of AMC’s Preacher titled “The End of the Road”!

Why doesn’t the Word work anymore? What caused Cassidy’s rash reactions in this episode? What’s going to happen with Hitler? All of that and more on this week’s episode!

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  1. Christina says:

    I love your podcast! Really great discussions.

    In regards to Tulip and Cassidy: Cassidy has known for quite some time that Denis is a problem. I think when Cass had his dream sequence, it was a great projection of his mood prior to killing Denis. He’s seeing all the evidence and just doesn’t know what to do. I agree this should have been more played up with Denis actions. However, in the dream, when Tulip says they are going to Bimini, he reminds himself that Denis is coming too and he’s completely disheartened about it. He thinks Tulip can save him from his addiction if she could come to care for him. While I agree his love for her his consuming, I believe that in his subconcious should he earn her love that he is afraid he would kill him being what he is. His infatuation stems from a need to be nurtured and deep down Tulip is indeed someone who takes the damaged and cast outs and mother hens them.

    In season one, while Jesse put him out, it was TULIP that freely accepted him and then helped him and healed him back top health. While Jesse sees Cass as a friend, there has been an underlining disgust of what Cass is to Jesse. There’s also a lack of respect between these two characters which makes me conclude that the genuine friendship in the show is not Jesse/Cass but Tulip/Cass and that he is holding back a great deal of his nature for her sake. All signs point to him wanting to reconcile Tulip/Jesse but I have a hard time buying he’s doing it for Jesse when he admitted that for quite some time now he’s hated him and that resentment has only festered due to Jesse’s actions. I think he sees Jesse as the capable leader and the better man but it doesn’t stop him for resenting that. The fact that Tulip will and can always forgives him ( which he basically said to Jesse in Viktor’s bedroom) makes for a very complicated relationship between the two men.

    I disagree regarding Tulip’s reaction to being spied on. She will fight for Jesse to the end of the world but Jesse has made it clear in so many ways he doesn’t really need her or Cassidy for that matter. This season he has sorely emotionally hurt them and has continued to lead them down paths that are ultimately based on his ego be be “special.” Because she DOES know him so well, she understands that current events as they stand ( being spied upon) wont conclude his quest to hold God accountable or chase down his dream to be more. She’s chosen to finally stop fighting his fight because of his neglect and thats more realistic than the comic ever was because no truly self confident women would continue to allow themselves to be held back or put in their place for ” their safety” without eventually saying enough. She;s done so before as we saw in ” Dallas.” Just because they are til the end of the world doesn’t mean she will wait around to be wanted or needed. But once she realized Jenny had taken advantage of her trust she immediately snapped back into mode.

    In the store, it wasn’t just the fact that the store clerk was being incredible sexist by calling her darlin but it’s something women of color have been subjected to many times. He kept seeing the sunscreen and immediately thought the cliche idea that black women don’t need sunscreen. He wasn’t make small talk, he was judging her. You see the mother stealing diapers and you empathize. You see Tulip hit a man, and she’s ostracized. I’m not sure if that scene was racially motivated but there were quite a few nice quips about how people perceive actions based. Both women stole but only one was judged.

    I was done with Hell two episodes.

    I thought Cass got rid of Banjo because it was painful. I think Cassidy never really knew his son but he did feel some type of remorse he failed and Banjo is a sign of that failure. He did by him a dog to make up for so many missed bday gifts so it makes sense once the dream of being a father ended, so would his need to keep the reminder.

    I agree Tulip is absolutely is tempermental. She’s def a punch first, ask questions later type of girl. I think she felt caught out in that scene and reacted. As you said, not the first time she’s had a gun pointed at her and attacked as seen with Viktors men. However, my statement still stands because we HAVE seen her attack men with guns in their hand and won so to show it happen again without even a fight was weaksauce.

    A question about death…many faiths believe our deaths are pre destined. Jesse is a religious man and clearly believes in the will of the higher power. Which would make sense that he’s say to let Tulip die. However, if he takes her to gma, is he resurrecting Tulip to cursed life? What do you think will be the cost and is that cost to her or Jesse? And what was so different from what Cassidy was proposing? The L’Angelles are racist af so I can’t see them accepting Tulip around for awhile.

    I think it’s just 1% of his soul taken. The Saint didn’t have a soul so Jesse gave him 1%. Hoover learned from the manual how to extract that 1% from the Saint so the Word wouldn’t work on him. I think Herr has The Saint’s weapons and next year we will see the conclusion of that deal they made. They offered The Saint something not to kill Jesse and I can only think that is Hell. I bet Mannering has the weapons. And now Herr is using that to blackmail Jesse to return. It seeming like it was more feels like a continuity error.

    Next questions: since the Saint has been cut off from his quest to kill Jesse, what motivation will allow for their paths to cross again? Do you think Herr will ask The Saint to go after Jesse once he makes it clear he is done with the Grail?

    I’m sure how I feel about it being ok for Jesse to show such disgust for what Cassidy is. It’s the shows fault that they’ve shown what Cassidy is in a much more empathetic plight than they did the comics. If Cassidy didn’t choose to be turned and has been fighting his addiction as you so eloquently put it then Jesse’s digust for what he is is almost hypocritical? Considering this is a man who accepted, even briefly, being seen as a God. That’s blasphemous in his own circle. While I get what you’re saying, his species is not to be romanticized, it sits wrong with me that considering Jesse’s own disgusting actions at times and that does no include what he may have done in the past.

    But who knows, maybe I’m being biased because Jesse has been such an unlikeable ass and since it was the showrunners plan, I wonder what they intend for him. You can’t show this man having a history of being a self absorbed, narcissistic, disengaged jerk most for the time and expect just because we see how that it changes. And if they change him overnight it will just seem disingenuous. I don’t hate Jesse, I empathize with him, but I can never really like him because his personality is ingrained.

    It wasn’t even that Jesse didn’t think to help Denis because he couldn’t, he just didn’t want to try. Then he LEGIT forgot who he was when they were in the kitchen which showed to Cassidy that Jesse doesn’t really give a fuck about anything on more than a superficial level with Cassidy. Again, back to Tulip and Cass having the genuine friendship; when the Saint was in the house and Denis was suffering the minute he told her Denis was his son, she immediately put herself in harms way to get him help. She actually listened to him when he discussed his fears versus immediately being repelled by the idea as Jesse was. Jesse has def has not hid the fact that he is better than Cassidy and even Tulip when he continues to override their choices with his own. They look up to him and he;’s obviously smarter than them as they both had no idea catamarans were boats!

    And back to season 1, it must be said that it was only once Tulip had Cassidy and Jesse could no longer deal with his guilt over what he did to Eugene that he sought him out and apologized and that it was Cassidy who brought up Jesse’s wrong headspace to his attention if we are making comic references about how Jesse and Tulip always tag teamed Cassidy in the book.

    Thanks for the shoutout! I heard my name and almost fell out of my office chair!

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